Amphitheater High School, Class of 1962
Phoebe Irene Pack
Date 2008/02/12 Tue AM 04:07:33 EST
To c DOT jones AT technidigm DOT org
CC doris DOT messinger AT cox DOT net
Subject RE: [Fwd: Re: AMPHI Phoebe Irene Pack]
I thank you all so much. Please keep forwarding responses to me
for Phoebe Pack, Charlie. This has opened quite a mystery, as
follows:
Arthur Pack, Nature Magazine Editor, Ghost Ranch founder, and
philanthropist had been married in NJ prior to moving west. He
and Eleanor Brown had three children according to various web
genealogies: Charles Lathrop Pack, Vernon Pack, and Margaret Pack nee
Bahti, who would have been the second wife to the founder of Bahti
Indian Arts on Campbell St. in Tucson and in Santa Fe. His son
Mark Bahti, my age, 57 now runs it. Margaret was born in NJ in
1927, the youngest of the three kids from Arthur's first marriage.
Then Phoebe Katherine Finley of Portland, the genealogy I'm working on
for myself and for Portland Audubon Society went to stay at Ghost
Ranch, NM with Pack who was by then divorced, in 1936 and married
him. Until now, I found no evidence of any natural children for
Phoebe, and thus only the older Pack children you wouldn't have
known. I believe you all were born abt. 1944, as I'm 1950 and
having 40th HS Reunion this yr (am on the Committee even.) class of
1968. So your several replies tell me Phoebe Irene was your age
and must have been a natural born daughter to Arthur and second wife
Phoebe Katherine (Finley) of Portland around 1945 when same was 38 yrs
old (born 1907, Portland).
I plan to be contacting some of the other Finley family members,
children of Phoebe K.'s brother William, Jr. born 1908.. he had
four. So I can probably eventually solve this, however I didn't
want to bother the family until I have an invitation for them to an
event I will plan, a gathering for William L. Finley's memory. He
was a great conservationist in the west under Pres. Theodore
Roosevelt's admin.. and our first State Game Warden here, and very much
more.
Finally, I will mention again that the first Ghost Ranch was near Santa
Fe, NM; then the Pack's moved to Tucson later and started the one lodge
your Tucson classmates know.. and also that Phoebe I. Pack's middle
name Irene is for William L. Finley's wife (her grandmother?) Nellie
Irene Barnhart who went by Irene, and was William's full-time bird
photography and adventuring partner after 1908. He had an earlier
boyhood friend photo partner. Finley published "American Birds"
with Scribner and Sons of NY in 1907, the year Phoebe K. was born.
Hope I'm not bothering you too much.. I didn't mean to go so far into
it with you. Forgive me. Now I won't feel the need to fill
you in again.
Steve Berliner of:
http://home.earthlink.net/~s.berliner/
http://home.earthlink.net/~forcreeks/
From Steve
Berliner [forcreeks AT earthlink DOT net]
Date 2008/02/11 Mon PM 05:01:19 EST
To c AT jones AT technidigm DOT org
Subject RE: [Fwd: AMPHI] Phoebe Irene Pack
Thank you very much Charlie,
I also received a reply from Betsy Bond Bounds no doubt thanks to
you. She did not mention knowing any relationship to the school
however.. but maybe another classmate will come through. Could
very well be that Phoebe Pack, who was born in 1907 on land I recently
purchased here was a benefactor to the school and was therefore
remembered, or perhaps a classmate of yours had a special fondness for
her. At any rate thanks very much. Also, I did order up a
copy of Phoebe Pack's obituary from the Arizona Daily Star, and could
copy it to you if you become curious.
Steve Berliner
From Doris
Messinger [doris DOT messinger AT cox DOT net]
Date 2008/02/09 Sat PM 04:24:18 EST
To c DOT jones AT technidigm DOT org
Subject Re: AMPHI Phoebe Irene Pack
Charles, there was a Phoebe Pack that was in our graduating class, I
had some classes with her. Her father owned the Ghost Ranch Lodge
here in Tucson on Miracle Mile and Fairview, but it has been closed for
quite some time. There is also an Arthur Pack Golf Course and Park and
he also helped found the Desert Museum. I don't know anymore than
that.
Doris
Messinger
From dave
& geri mathewson [mathewson AT ccountry DOT net]
Date 2008/02/09 Sat PM 03:25:06 EST
To c DOT jones AT technidigm DOT org
Subject Phoebe Pack
Charlie,
As I recall, Phoebe was the daughter of the Pack family that owned
Ghost Ranch Lodge while we were in high school.
Dave
Mathewson
From "Charles
R. Jones" [charles DOT ray DOT jones AT verizon DOT net]
Date 2008/02/09 Sat PM 01:50:46 EST
To Steve Berliner [forcreeks AT earthlink DOT net]
Mr. Berliner,
I have no additional knowledge of Phoebe Pack, although I do remember
her from high school days.
I am forwarding this to other classmates in case they have any
additional information.
Our graduation yearbook indicates she was active in chorus.
Best regards,
Charlie Jones
c DOT jones AT technidigm DOT org
From Steve
Berliner [forcreeks AT earthlink.net]
Date 2008/02/09 Sat AM 04:00:58 EST
To c DOT jones AT technidigm DOT org
Subject AMPHI
re: Phoebe Irene Pack
Dear Mr. Jones,
May I ask for your help in researching an AMPHI High "connection," of a
historic family here in Oregon? I was tracing a lead on Phoebe
Irene Pack (born Phoebe Finley here in Portland area in 1907) which led
me to your Amphitheater High School Reunion page, where she's listed as
"In Memorium" near the bottom of page. I'm doing my research in
conjunction with Audubon Society of Portland, or which Ms. Pack's
well-known father was the first President beginning in 1906. I
would guess she was some sort of benefactor or friend to the school,
but perhaps you could fill me in with some more detail from your own
recall, of her connection with the school, or any other recollections
that come to mind of her civic or family associations in the Tucson
area.
Thanks very much, and I hope this is of little bother.
By the way, I'm on my own class's 40th Reunion Committee for this year,
2008 (class of 1968, Reynolds High).
If you have the interest you may like to visit my bird photography web
sites, as well as to confirm my legitimate interest in Ms. Pack's
roots. :
http://home.earthlink.net/~s.berliner/
http://home.earthlink.net/~forcreeks/
Steve Berliner
forcreeks AT earthlink DOT net
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